Stride Live: Escaping the “I have a job not a business” Trap as an MSP Owner with Brian Hoppe, MBA, PCC

Learn how MSP owners can delegate operations, reduce owner dependency, strengthen leadership, and build a more scalable, valuable business with Brian Hoppe.

You started your MSP because you were good at what you did. You understood technology, knew how to solve problems, and saw an opportunity to build something of your own. Maybe you started with a handful of clients, grew through referrals, and eventually found yourself running a company with a team, recurring revenue, and millions in annual sales.

By most measures, you’ve built a successful business. But here’s the question: Have you built a business that can succeed without you?

For a lot of MSP owners, the answer is complicated. They’re still the ones making day-to-day decisions, solving technical problems, managing employees, and keeping everything moving. Even as the business grows, they find themselves working just as hard as they did when they started, if not harder.

It’s a common challenge, and one that can have a significant impact on everything from profitability and growth to the long-term value of your business.

In a recent episode of Stride Live, Casey Seaborn sat down with business coach Brian Hoppe, MBA, PCC, founder of Brian Hoppe Coaching, to discuss why so many MSP owners get caught in the “I have a job, not a business” trap and what it takes to break free. Their conversation explored the mindset shifts, leadership decisions, and operational strategies that can help owners move out of the day-to-day and start building a business that creates real, lasting value.

Here are some of the biggest takeaways, along with practical ways to start applying them to your own MSP.

Why MSP Owners Get Stuck Working in Their Businesses

Most MSPs don’t start with a sophisticated business plan or a fully developed organizational structure. They start with someone who’s really good at technology and has a few clients who need their help. From there, the business grows. More clients come in, more technicians get hired, and new services are added along the way. Before long, that one-person operation has turned into a $1 million, $2 million, or even $3 million company.

But somewhere along the way, the business outgrows the systems and processes that supported it in the beginning. As Brian explained during the conversation, many MSPs grow based on instinct rather than intentional planning. Owners hire when they’re overwhelmed, make decisions based on what’s happening in the moment, and continue taking on responsibilities because they’ve always been the ones handling them.

Eventually, they reach a point where they’ve built a business that depends almost entirely on them. They have employees doing the work, but they’re still responsible for making the decisions, answering the questions, and solving the problems. When the owner can’t step away without things falling apart, that creates a problem that goes well beyond their workload. It limits the company’s ability to scale, creates operational bottlenecks, and can ultimately make the business less valuable to a potential buyer.

The good news is that this isn’t necessarily a revenue problem or even a staffing problem. More often, it’s a matter of how the business is structured, how decisions are made, and how the owner views their role.

1. Start Thinking Like a Shareholder, Not Just an Operator

One of Brian’s first recommendations for MSP owners is to rethink what it actually means to own a business. When you’ve spent years building your MSP from the ground up, it’s natural to identify with the work you do. You might still think of yourself as the best technician, the primary salesperson, or the person who knows how to solve just about any problem that comes up. But as Brian points out, being an MSP owner isn’t necessarily your job. It’s your position as a shareholder in the business.

That distinction changes how you should be thinking about your time, your responsibilities, and the decisions you’re making. As an operator, you’re focused on getting things done. You’re managing employees, solving problems, handling customers, and making sure the business runs smoothly. As a shareholder, your perspective should be much broader. You’re looking at the business as an asset and asking whether it’s generating the kind of return you want from the time, money, and energy you’ve invested.

For example, if you’ve built a $3 million MSP, what do you ultimately want that business to become? Are you working toward $5 million in revenue? Do you want to increase profitability, acquire another company, or eventually sell the business and retire? Maybe your goal is simply to create a company that provides financial stability without requiring you to work 60 hours a week. Whatever your vision looks like, you need to understand where you’re trying to go before you can make the right decisions about how to get there.

Create a Value Creation Plan

Brian recommends starting with a value creation plan that defines what you want your business to deliver over time. This means looking beyond revenue goals and considering the bigger financial picture. How much value do you want the business to generate? What kind of profitability will you need to get there? What organizational structure, leadership team, and operational improvements will be necessary to support that growth?

Once you’ve identified the outcome you’re working toward, you can begin working backward to develop a strategy that supports it. This is where financial planning becomes especially important. Having a clear understanding of your current profitability, cash flow, and financial performance gives you a starting point for evaluating what needs to change and where you should be investing your resources.

Instead of making decisions based on what’s happening right now, you’re making decisions based on where you want the business to be three, five, or even ten years from now. The goal is to stop thinking only about how to run the business you have today and start thinking about how to build the business you ultimately want to own.

2. Figure Out Where Your Time Creates the Most Value

Here’s something worth considering: Just because you’re really good at something doesn’t mean you should be the person doing it.

That’s a particularly difficult mindset shift for MSP owners who built their companies on their technical expertise. When you’re used to being the person who can solve just about any technical problem, it’s tempting to jump back into that work whenever something comes up. And let’s be honest, there’s a certain satisfaction that comes from doing the work you know best.

But Brian challenges MSP owners to think about what he calls their highest and best use, or the activities where their time and expertise create the greatest value for the company.

During the conversation, he shared an example of an MSP owner who spent approximately ten hours closing a managed services agreement worth $10,000 per month. That’s $120,000 in annual recurring revenue generated from ten hours of sales activity. Now compare that to the same owner spending an entire weekend working on a server project that could have been completed by a technician.

Both activities are important to the business, but they don’t create the same value. When you’re consistently spending your time on work that someone else could handle, you’re limiting the amount of time available for the activities that actually move the business forward. This doesn’t mean MSP owners should never be involved in technical work or day-to-day operations. It means being intentional about where your time is spent and recognizing when your involvement is helping the business versus holding it back.

Take a Closer Look at Your Responsibilities

A practical place to start is by reviewing everything you’re currently responsible for. Think about the tasks that fill your week, the decisions that require your involvement, and the problems that continually find their way back to your desk. Then ask yourself which of those responsibilities genuinely require your expertise and which could be handled by someone else with the right training, systems, and accountability.

You may discover that a significant portion of your time is spent on activities that don’t necessarily need your direct involvement. The more of those responsibilities you can transition to capable team members, the more time you’ll have to focus on strategy, business development, financial performance, and long-term growth.

3. Delegate Operations Before You Delegate Sales

When MSP owners decide it’s time to get out of the day-to-day, one of the first things they often consider is hiring a salesperson. It makes sense on the surface. If someone else can bring in new business, the owner should have more time to focus on other priorities.

But during the Stride Live conversation, Casey asked Brian a question that led to one of the most interesting takeaways of the episode: If an MSP owner had to choose between handing off sales or operations first, which would he recommend?

Brian’s answer was immediate: Operations.

His reasoning comes down to how most MSPs operate and where owner dependency creates the biggest challenges. For many MSPs, the founder is still one of the company’s strongest salespeople. They understand the services, know how to communicate the value, and have relationships that make it easier to bring in new business. Brian has seen founder-led sales continue to work successfully even as MSPs grow into significantly larger organizations.

Owner-led operations, on the other hand, become much harder to sustain as the company grows. If every operational decision requires the owner’s approval, there’s only so much the business can accomplish before that person becomes a bottleneck.

There’s also a common misconception that hiring a salesperson automatically solves your sales challenges. As Brian explained, many MSP owners hire someone to take over sales without having the systems, processes, marketing, or infrastructure needed to support them. When that salesperson doesn’t produce results, the owner assumes they made a bad hire and starts looking for someone else. But the underlying problem hasn’t changed. Instead of building a functional sales engine, they’ve simply handed someone a responsibility without giving them the tools to succeed.

What Does Successful Delegation Actually Look Like?

The same principle applies when you’re handing off operations. Hiring an operations manager or director is an important step, but it won’t accomplish much if you’re still the person making all the decisions.

Brian emphasizes that successful delegation requires giving your leaders real ownership over their areas of responsibility. That means clearly defining what success looks like, establishing how performance will be measured, and allowing them to make decisions about how to achieve those results. It also means resisting the temptation to step back in whenever something doesn’t go exactly the way you would have handled it.

If you’re constantly overriding your operations leader, going directly to their employees, or inserting yourself into decisions they’ve been hired to make, you’re undermining the very structure you’re trying to build. Delegation isn’t just about getting tasks off your plate. It’s about building a team that can take ownership of results without needing you to manage every detail. And for an MSP that’s trying to scale, that kind of leadership and accountability can make a tremendous difference.

4. Use the Right Metrics to Manage Without Micromanaging

Of course, handing off responsibilities doesn’t mean you should stop paying attention to what’s happening in your business. In fact, the less involved you are in day-to-day operations, the more important it becomes to have reliable information that tells you how things are performing.

During the conversation, Brian introduced a useful question: If you were sitting on a desert island and wanted to know whether your MSP was running smoothly, what information would you need?

His recommendation is to identify eight to ten key performance indicators that give you a clear picture of the business without requiring you to personally oversee every activity. For an MSP, that might include ticket volume, open versus closed tickets, aging service requests, client satisfaction, and other operational metrics that help you understand whether your team is keeping up with demand.

The specific metrics will depend on your company’s size, structure, and priorities. What’s important is that they’re meaningful, accurate, and reviewed consistently. When you have that information readily available, you can start managing the business based on performance rather than constantly checking in on individual tasks.

Connect Operational Performance to Financial Results

This is also where your financial reporting becomes a critical part of the conversation. At Stride, we frequently see how closely MSP operations and financial performance are connected. Your service delivery processes, labor utilization, billing practices, and cost allocations all influence what eventually shows up in your financial statements.

For example, if your technicians are spending more time servicing agreements than expected, that can impact your profitability. If your PSA and accounting systems aren’t aligned, you may have difficulty understanding the true cost of delivering your services or identifying which agreements are actually profitable. And if your financial reports aren’t accurate, it’s difficult to make confident decisions about hiring, pricing, investments, or growth.

That’s why having the right dashboard isn’t just about tracking activity. It’s about understanding what that activity means for the financial health of your business. When your operational and financial data work together, you can identify inefficiencies, evaluate performance, and make more informed decisions without needing to be involved in every transaction or operational issue.

The goal is to have enough visibility to lead the business strategically without having to manage it personally.

5. Build the Organization You’re Growing Into, Not Just the One You Have Today

Another challenge many MSPs face is that their organizational structure develops reactively rather than intentionally. When someone gets overwhelmed, they hire another person. When a new service creates additional work, they add a new role. Over time, the team expands, but the structure doesn’t necessarily reflect what the business needs to grow successfully.

Brian recommends a different approach: Build your future organization on paper before you actually get there. One way to do this is through an accountability chart, a concept used within the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS).

Unlike a traditional organizational chart that focuses primarily on who reports to whom, an accountability chart starts by identifying the roles, responsibilities, and decision-making authority needed to run the business effectively. For example, if you’re currently operating a $3 million MSP with a goal of reaching $5 million, start by mapping out what your organization should look like at that next stage of growth.

What leadership positions will you need? Who will be responsible for sales, operations, finance, and service delivery? What outcomes should each role be accountable for, and how will you know whether those responsibilities are being handled successfully?

Once you’ve mapped out the structure, you can start assigning people to those roles. And here’s where things often get interesting. You may realize that you’re currently filling four or five different seats within your organization. Maybe you’re acting as CEO, head of sales, operations leader, and financial decision-maker, all while continuing to handle some technical work.

That exercise helps you see where the business is overly dependent on you and which responsibilities will need to shift as you grow. It also allows you to make more strategic hiring decisions. Instead of adding people simply because you’re overwhelmed, you’re building a leadership team around the needs of your future organization.

Don’t Forget About Financial Leadership

As your MSP grows, it’s especially important to consider how financial management fits into that organizational structure. There’s a significant difference between having someone who handles your bookkeeping and having access to financial guidance that helps you make strategic business decisions.

Accurate bookkeeping and financial reporting provide the foundation, but understanding how to use that information is what allows you to evaluate profitability, forecast cash flow, plan investments, and determine whether your business is progressing toward its goals.

For MSP owners who are already wearing multiple hats, having the right financial support can help remove some of that responsibility while providing the insights needed to make better decisions. The goal isn’t necessarily to build a large internal finance department. It’s to make sure the right expertise, processes, and accountability are in place to support the business you’re working toward.

6. Remember That Owner Independence Creates Enterprise Value

We’ve talked a lot about creating more freedom for MSP owners, but there’s another important benefit to reducing owner dependency: It can make your business more valuable.

Think about it from the perspective of a potential buyer. If you’re considering acquiring an MSP, you’d probably want to know how dependent the company is on its current owner. Are they responsible for bringing in most of the new business? Do they manage all the major client relationships? Are they the only person who understands the financials or makes important operational decisions?

If the answer is yes to most of those questions, that creates risk. After all, what happens to the business when that person leaves?

Now consider an MSP with an established leadership team, documented processes, reliable financial reporting, and a consistent track record of profitability. The business has systems in place to support operations, and employees have the authority and accountability to keep things moving. That’s a very different situation for a potential buyer.

While there are many factors that influence an MSP’s valuation, reducing owner dependency can help strengthen the business by making its performance more sustainable and less reliant on any one individual. And even if you’re not planning to sell anytime soon, those same improvements can make your business easier to manage, more efficient, and better positioned for growth.

Enterprise Value Is About More Than Revenue

One of the biggest misconceptions about business value is that growing revenue automatically makes a company more valuable. Revenue matters, but it’s only part of the picture.

A business generating $5 million in annual revenue isn’t necessarily more valuable than one generating $3 million if its profitability is weaker, its systems are inefficient, or its operations depend heavily on the owner. That’s why it’s important to evaluate growth alongside profitability, cash flow, operational efficiency, and the strength of your leadership team.

If you’re thinking about an eventual exit, these are the kinds of factors you want to be paying attention to long before you’re ready to sell. And if you’re simply trying to build a stronger business today, they matter just as much.

Where Should MSP Owners Start?

If you’re recognizing some of these challenges in your own MSP, you don’t need to overhaul your entire business overnight. But you do need to start thinking more intentionally about where you’re headed and what’s currently standing in your way.

Here are five practical steps you can take to get started:

  1. Define what you want your business to become. Think beyond revenue and consider your long-term goals for profitability, business value, personal freedom, and an eventual exit.
  2. Identify your highest-value responsibilities. Take an honest look at how you’re spending your time and determine which activities truly require your involvement.
  3. Map out your future organizational structure. Build an accountability chart for the business you’re working toward and identify the roles you’ll need to fill along the way.
  4. Establish reliable performance metrics. Make sure you have accurate operational and financial information that allows you to evaluate how the business is performing without managing every detail.
  5. Start delegating real ownership. Identify responsibilities you can transition to capable leaders, define what success looks like, and give them the authority to make decisions.

These steps may seem straightforward, but the real challenge is following through consistently. As Brian emphasized during the conversation, once you’ve delegated a responsibility, you have to be willing to stay out of it. There will be mistakes, decisions you disagree with, and situations where stepping back in feels easier than letting someone else figure it out. But that’s part of building a business that can grow beyond you.

Building an MSP That Works for You

At the end of the day, most MSP owners didn’t start their businesses because they wanted to create a more demanding job for themselves. They wanted to build something meaningful, create financial opportunities, and have more control over their future. But getting there requires more than growing your revenue or hiring more employees.

It requires building a company with the right leadership, processes, financial systems, and strategic direction to operate successfully without depending on you for everything.

At Stride, we believe your financials should play an active role in that process. When you have accurate financial information, a clear understanding of your profitability, and a strategy that connects your operations to your long-term goals, you’re in a much stronger position to make the decisions that move your business forward.

Whether you’re working toward your next stage of growth, preparing for an eventual exit, or simply trying to create more freedom in your day-to-day life, the objective is ultimately the same: Build a business that creates value for you, rather than one that depends entirely on you.

 

Watch the Full Stride Live Conversation

Want to hear more about what it takes to escape the owner-dependent MSP trap? Watch Casey Seaborn’s conversation with Brian Hoppe, MBA, PCC, as they discuss practical ways to delegate operations, develop stronger leadership, create a value creation plan, and build an MSP that’s positioned for long-term success.

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About Brian Hoppe

Brian Hoppe, MBA, PCC, is the founder of Brian Hoppe Coaching and a strategic advisor and coach to MSP owners and CEOs. With more than 20 years of experience in the managed services industry, Brian has held nearly every role within an MSP, from technician and operations manager to CFO and CEO. Having built, scaled, and sold MSP businesses himself, he brings firsthand experience to helping owners navigate the challenges of growth, leadership, and long-term business value.

Today, Brian works with MSP leaders to strengthen their leadership teams, improve operational performance, reduce owner dependency, and build businesses that create greater enterprise value and personal freedom. He also hosts The $10M MSP Podcast, where he shares insights and conversations with MSP leaders who have successfully scaled their organizations. To learn more about Brian’s work or connect with him directly, visit brianhoppe.com or find him on LinkedIn.

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